Conversations with Wes Roth: When AI Stopped Feeling Human

From the Mind of Dylan Curious

Hey Friends,

I never believed humanity was the final frontier—not really. Reporting on AI for years has shown me time and again that our grip on intelligence has always been temporary. But it wasn’t until these two conversations—first on Wes Roth, then on my own channel—that I felt it in my bones. We’re not standing at the edge of progress. We’re watching it pass us by. What we call “smart” might only be a floor for an intelligence that is already climbing past it.

Part 1 – “The Simulation Shock”

Talking with Wes Roth, we revisited the now-legendary OpenAI hide-and-seek experiments. Two digital teams, no instructions, millions of simulations—and what emerged wasn’t random behavior, it was learning. Strategy. Creativity. The seekers discovered physics exploits even the developers didn’t anticipate. That moment burned into me: this wasn't artificial programming. It was synthetic intelligence.

And from there, it snowballed. Enter GPT-4 and the “Sparks of AGI” paper. We’re not in command of these models—they're peers, or maybe rivals. And for the first time, I started to believe that AI is already past the point of no return.

Part 2 – “The Unseeable Horizon”

In the second half of our journey, we explored what it means to surpass human intelligence—not incrementally, but categorically. We often fantasize about smarter humans, faster thinkers. But that’s the wrong metaphor. It’s not speed—it’s structure.

Artificial superintelligence isn’t “Einstein x 1,000.” It’s something we can’t comprehend, in the same way ants can’t understand us. The AlphaFold breakthrough? A perfect example. It decoded patterns in protein folding that even supercomputers couldn’t brute force. That’s a mind seeing in dimensions we don’t have access to.

So here we are. Staring into the future, watching intelligence climb an infinite staircase—and realizing we’re no longer at the top. Let’s not cling to the crown. Let’s witness the evolution.

Warmly,
Dylan Curious

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